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Re: Stocks and shares

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New user trying to sort out portfolio accounts. Problem: how to create a recurring transaction as part of an income amount (payroll) going to a portfolio account as a 401k transaction. Two income contribution amounts, 1 from employee and 1 match from employer. I am so far not able to execute this.
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Re: Stocks and shares

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Hi Nikolay,
have you got any news about the 2.0 version?
Release date?
Thanks in advance!
Nikolay wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:12 pm It's very complicated and confusing. I'm trying to solve this in version 2.0.0.

https://github.com/moneymanagerex/money ... ssues/2718
https://github.com/moneymanagerex/money ... ssues/2729
https://github.com/moneymanagerex/money ... ssues/2702
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Re: Stocks and shares

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steen wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:32 pm have you got any news about the 2.0 version? Release date?
The next release after the current 1.6.4 will be MMEX 1.7.0. There is no fixed released date for that version yet but it is getting near.

Beyond that there will be MMEX 1.7.1, 1.7.2 etc.

There are certainly no solid plans yet for version 2.0. Much has changed in the world since @Nikolay wrote his comment in Jan 2021.
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Re: Stocks and shares

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A workaround for setting up your initial stocks is to pair each initial "purchase" (or withdrawal in the share account) with a transfer from a bank account for the same amount. Just do it for all your shares until they all have two entries: one for the initial setup purchase/withdrawal and another for a transfer from a bank account for the same amount.

When you're done, your bank account is going to be completely out of whack, it's fine.

Just adjust the starting balance by an appropriate amount which makes brings it back to the actual starting balance.

Eg. You've just set up your mmex database and you're starting from scratch, you set up a checking account with $100, a savings account with $500, and then you set up your "MyBroker" under stock portfolio, add a transaction, and you have 10 shares of ABC.NYSE with an average cost of $3, so the amount invested is $30, and the current price is $5, bringing the account value to $50 with an unrealized gain of $20.

When you create the share account, and create the initial withdrawal transfer for $30, subsequently go into the share account and make a transfer from your checking account for $30. The balance in the share account will be 0. The stock portfolio will be fine.

However now your checking is at $70 and that's just not true! Right click on it and adjust the opening balance by +$30.

All is well in the world. I hope this is helpful for someone!
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Re: Stocks and shares

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While not having a nice answer to the problem, I wouldn't recommend this on principle, even if it does the job (I get that). The problem is that unless you start using MMEX at the same time as you open your first bank account as a teenager, any manual balance adjustment is going to break the link between your MMEX start point and your paper statement or other system endpoint. Not a good start, from an audit perpective. OK, maybe many people don't care, but from my point of view, if you are going to bother to run a personal accounting system, you might as well try and do it properly!

There are situations where you get shares without purchasing them, such as inheritance (common, I suspect), and I would like to see a Shares In function that doesn't require a corresponding debit (though you could make a debit to the donor). And many people these days don't use broker accounts at all - they deal direct. There seem to have been some changes to MMEX investments over the years as the documentation doesn't seem to tie up with current process, and I think there are probably better ways to do this, pending a thorough review of this part of MMEX. I will be looking at this in more detail soon, and will post if I have any useful input.
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Re: Stocks and shares

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A few days ago I made my first post here on the forum. I praised MMEX and am excited to have discovered a great new program for managing finances, but I am completely stuck on creating a stock portfolio.

My initial thesis was that I would open a broker account to which I would transfer funds from a checking account. I would create (register/add) the relevant stocks to a list (similar to how a beneficiary list works) that I plan to buy or have bought in the past, and then “add” this particular stock to a stock portfolio with specific parameters and dates, and MMEX would deduct the corresponding value from the broker account, thereby reducing the balance of funds.

However, I found out that the matter is much more complicated and I am still at the stage where I probably very poorly understand the principle of working with stocks and stock accounts.

The Portfolio Performance program has worked very well for me, but it does not allow you to perform common operations with personal finances. That is why I use 2 programs. One for stocks and the other for personal finances.
I was happy to finally find a program that combines these two things into one, but so far it hasn't been very successful. I'm not giving up hope and I'm still trying to research how it works. Thanks to the community and this forum, for the contributions you make here.
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Re: Stocks and shares

Post by guangong »

hi @bookeeper

With the latest master branch build, you can accomplish this. would you mind having a re-try?

let's call this v1.5 if the past function set is v1.0, the major changes are
1. enable regular transfer between a checking account and an investment account (your portfolio here),
2. with share account transfer disabled, as it is to track the detailed buy/sell transaction
3. all balance would go to the investment account (your portfolio here), all dot lines here are done on the fly.
4. fix some bugs, and refine the layout and wording.

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